http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/-t1.htm Ask anything! Feeding schedules, recipes, does this meat look off to you?, etc! Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:13:02 GMT 10 http://illiweb.com/fa/invision/en/logo.png http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/-t1.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/feeding-whole-prey-need-supplements-t248.htm npc3 I first tried making my own raw diet, got a grinder, all the supplements, spent all day making food. My cats went nuts over chicken and really wanted to eat it all up, until I added the supplements to the mix! They would not touch it and I ended up trashing probably $70 worth of meat. I then gave up for a bit, but want to give it another try. I thought by feeding whole carcus they would not need any man made supplements. Is this true? I was just going to purchase the food online from hare ... General Questions Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:13:02 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/feeding-whole-prey-need-supplements-t248.htm#1412 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/feeding-whole-prey-need-supplements-t248.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/book-review-t238.htm Timothea
Any other good books?]]> General Questions Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:21:53 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/book-review-t238.htm#1381 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/book-review-t238.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/switching-neko-t232.htm Siam I have begun trying to switch Neko, my picky cat, to raw. It took nearly a year to get him eating wet food for God's sake so I know I'm in for a long transition. Yesterday was day three of the switch. First day I mixed chopped small raw chicken with a smaller amount of wet food. He sniffed and left. Willie got raw chicken for dinner too. I sprinkled some kibble on Neko's food in hopes that he'd at least try it. In the morning Willie's food was still there, Neko's was gone but my parents said ... General Questions Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:21:15 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/switching-neko-t232.htm#1359 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/switching-neko-t232.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/new-site-for-info-t237.htm Auntie Crazy A new website with lots of raw-food info. I haven't read all the way through it, but it's looking good so far! The Feline Nutrition Education Society And I am beyond delighted to discover at least one US vendor has removed dry cat food from their shelves and is refusing to sell it henceforth. While I believe it's a guarantee the Pet Food Industry will eventually have to stop making kibble for cats, I now have hope it may actually happen in my lifetime. *cavorts ecstatically* General Questions Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:50:42 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/new-site-for-info-t237.htm#1374 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/new-site-for-info-t237.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/kibble-fed-and-constipated-t235.htm Heather Anyone had constipation issues in their cats prior to raw? Did being on raw solve the problem? My poor 9 year old red tabby boy has had constipation issues on and off for the past year or so. He's on EVO and while he does eat some raw, if it has skin or fat on it or the tiniest fragment of bone or cartilage he won't touch it. He will eat ground though and boneless chunks. I'm going to be able to get pork, turkey and chicken at a low cost from my co-op here soon and will invest in a grinder. I ... General Questions Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:00:33 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/kibble-fed-and-constipated-t235.htm#1366 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/kibble-fed-and-constipated-t235.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/tasty-liver-t230.htm chris10 There is a good chance many of you have seen my post on other boards. If not here it is "A fair amount of people, including myself, are a little hesitant to feed large amounts of liver. What is considered a large amount will vary from person to person. So we will look at what it will take to O/D your cat on vitamin A. The AAFCO recommends the maximum consumption of vitamin A to be 750,000IU's per kilogram of food on a dry matter basis. Liver has a dry matter basis of 23.54% 1 ... General Questions Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:37:01 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/tasty-liver-t230.htm#1350 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/tasty-liver-t230.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/wild-caught-critters-t225.htm Timothea Okay, so I know that I can buy mice, pinkies, fuzzies and the like, but it appears that I have some in the basement, I've had them before, and my dog has caught one in the past, but the question is, if I catch with traps, can I freeze them to kill off the parasites and then feed them to my kittys? Do you bother skinning them first? (Update, Kelly has one baby kitty for me at her house, and will have another in a week!!!! She's even going to try to switch to raw at her place, so most of ... General Questions Mon, 03 Aug 2009 15:17:58 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/wild-caught-critters-t225.htm#1328 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/wild-caught-critters-t225.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/ground-beef-and-other-meats-t204.htm furryfriends50 Okay, I know i should know this, but is there any bones in ground beef? I just got some for very cheap ground beef, since it is after the fourth of july there was some very good sales on meat. I got only about a weeks worth of beef (which is actually 15 pounds because i have 20 cats that will eat raw). They also get some wet food everyday along with a few bites of dry, and are eating much less with it being so hot out. Should i add some chicken bones into the ground beef to cover the ... General Questions Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:22:16 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/ground-beef-and-other-meats-t204.htm#1172 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/ground-beef-and-other-meats-t204.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/for-those-that-feed-whole-prey-t194.htm Heather I hope this doesn't offend anyone or give the impression that I do not respect the animals that nourish my Waverli but does anyone else get curious about the anatomy and take a look? I always take the intestines and stomach out because for one I don't want her eating the grain based stomach/intestinal contents and two because she likes to "finger paint" with it all over the floor and it grosses out everyone in the family because the whole downstairs smells like crap. A few nights ago ... General Questions Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:43:05 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/for-those-that-feed-whole-prey-t194.htm#1088 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/for-those-that-feed-whole-prey-t194.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/too-much-taurine-t119.htm Siam Is it possible to give your cat too much taurine (without supplementing)? For instance we know heart and thigh meat is rich in taurine, if instead of feeding chicken breast as your muscle meat you fed thighs and hearts would this be harmful? General Questions Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:16:52 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/too-much-taurine-t119.htm#632 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/too-much-taurine-t119.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/feeding-supervision-t97.htm Siam I was wondering if you all watch your cats while they eat or leave them alone with their food? If you watch why? If you don't watch have you ever run into problems with animals hiding leftovers, choking etc.? General Questions Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:16:13 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/feeding-supervision-t97.htm#535 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/feeding-supervision-t97.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/breakfast-solutions-t162.htm Siam I am thinking about making the change from half raw to all raw for Willie soon but still have some concerns/complications. One is leaving for school in the morning. I wake up at 6:00am and leave at 6:45 (occasionally I get to leave much later so those days would be no problem but these days are much less common). I am not sure if 45 minutes (even less because I'll take a few minutes to get up and get out the food plus a few minutes to clean up before 6:45 when I leave) is enough time for the ... General Questions Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:33:35 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/breakfast-solutions-t162.htm#901 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/breakfast-solutions-t162.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/wav-s-teeth-horrified-t175.htm Heather Wav's been on raw since weaning but I just looked into her mouth as she was yawning and saw some yellow. Thinking I was hallucinating I wrangled her up and pulled her lips back. Her back molars have a good amount of tartar on them. WHAT?! She eats whole prey- L size rats, GPs, 3 week quail and various cut up pieces of similar size of squirrel, rabbit, chicken. How could she have so much tartar on her teeth? Could she be genetically predisposed to have poor dental health? I am pretty upset about ... General Questions Fri, 29 May 2009 22:28:07 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/wav-s-teeth-horrified-t175.htm#956 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/wav-s-teeth-horrified-t175.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/picture-of-a-fifteen-year-olds-teeth-t171.htm Kelly
]]> General Questions Sun, 24 May 2009 15:16:13 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/picture-of-a-fifteen-year-olds-teeth-t171.htm#929 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/picture-of-a-fifteen-year-olds-teeth-t171.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/question-about-variety-t166.htm Siam How important is it that a cat have many different protein sources? Right now all Willie really gets is chicken (although his kidney is from a cow). He is getting everything he needs, meat, bones, liver and kidney but just chicken meat. Is it very important that I mix things up? If so why? Is it just to keep him from getting bored or is there a nutritional reason as well? General Questions Thu, 07 May 2009 13:45:51 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/question-about-variety-t166.htm#920 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/question-about-variety-t166.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/nasty-poo-t161.htm Siam Willie has always had nasty poo, is is pretty soft and very smelly, it was before raw and is still now. Some days they seem like they are more solid than others but on the whole they are pretty bad. He is not on all raw, I am considering making that leap soon if I can find a successful way to get more organ into him (Kelly gave me a good idea which I'll be trying tonight). Do you think this will help his poop or do you think some cats just have bad poops? Has anyone fed half raw (half dry) and ... General Questions Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:26:59 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/nasty-poo-t161.htm#900 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/nasty-poo-t161.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/bringing-my-mom-over-to-the-dark-side-t159.htm Siam My family used to feed our dog Pedigree and the cats Purina cat chow, they had no interest in what was best they just went with what other people they knew fed. We've come a long way, I choose what we feed the animals. I had so much trouble convincing them to switch dry food and even more trouble getting them to allow me to feed wet food to the cats. I prevailed though, they now let me make decisions on food. The other day my brother's girlfriend was talking about how her cat was getting fat ... General Questions Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:06:21 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/bringing-my-mom-over-to-the-dark-side-t159.htm#883 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/bringing-my-mom-over-to-the-dark-side-t159.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/how-to-crush-chicken-necks-t148.htm Kelly Can I use a shoe?]]> General Questions Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:53:25 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/how-to-crush-chicken-necks-t148.htm#809 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/how-to-crush-chicken-necks-t148.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/pidgeon-isn-t-going-over-that-well-hm-t112.htm Kelly ]]> General Questions Sat, 21 Mar 2009 23:10:57 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/pidgeon-isn-t-going-over-that-well-hm-t112.htm#607 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/pidgeon-isn-t-going-over-that-well-hm-t112.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/solid-t92.htm Heather I'm curious if this is due to being raw fed and if so, only since weaning or at any point? My stepdad mentioned he went to pick Waverli up and she was "really heavy" but she is not fat by any means. She does not have a flabby belly- it's flat and firm. You can feel her muscles under the skin and they are very well toned and better developed than any of our other cats. She is a rather small framed cat and doesn't look freakish by any means but I'm just curious if others have cats ... General Questions Thu, 12 Mar 2009 03:03:17 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/solid-t92.htm#513 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/solid-t92.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/has-anyone-noticed-a-prefference-with-store-bought-and-wild-or-hobby-farm-raised-t89.htm Kelly So our cats, at this point, will eat bones. Ribs/backs/legs/wings. No issues. Week or so ago, we had rabbit legs, and everyone devoured them in minutes. Larger bones, so clearly they do fine. Last night we had chicken backs. Lots of meat still on them, skin, some had kidneys attached. They hummed and hawed for about half an hour before eating those! I was pondering, other than the possibility that they just like rabbit more.. the chicken is all factory farm raised, while our rabbits ... General Questions Tue, 10 Mar 2009 02:49:44 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/has-anyone-noticed-a-prefference-with-store-bought-and-wild-or-hobby-farm-raised-t89.htm#496 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/has-anyone-noticed-a-prefference-with-store-bought-and-wild-or-hobby-farm-raised-t89.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/chicken-necks-and-prey-model-t75.htm chris10 Feeding just chicken necks is still debated. BARF and raw meaty bones generally say feeding just necks is fine. While people who stick to the prey model diet say that necks have too much bone. If we compare necks to the prey model diet we see that necks have three times the recommended amount. Necks are about 36% bone. Some common prey and amounts are: rodents and small birds have about 5% bones, rabbits are 9%, chicken 32%, and quail 10% and so on. So its easy to see why the rough guideline ... General Questions Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:58:20 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/chicken-necks-and-prey-model-t75.htm#432 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/chicken-necks-and-prey-model-t75.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/survey-for-raw-feeders-t84.htm Timothea This was asked to be cross posted at the survey site. Feel free to pass on. Calling all raw feeders (experienced or new), we need YOUR help! Hello! Please take a moment to complete the survey at the link below: http://watchfuleye.ca/ Our mission is to compile results that will help us, as raw feeders, better inform people about the truth and benefits about the diet we feed our beloved pets. With this research we hope to have enough data to show the people that come ... General Questions Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:55:14 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/survey-for-raw-feeders-t84.htm#483 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/survey-for-raw-feeders-t84.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/how-much-salmon-oil-t77.htm mschauer www.catnutrition.org. It calls for 4000 mg of salmon oil for about 6 lbs of food. I have a bottle of oil, not capsules.

Does anyone know how many teaspoons of salmon oil equals 4000 mg???]]> General Questions Sun, 01 Mar 2009 00:56:32 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/how-much-salmon-oil-t77.htm#451 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/how-much-salmon-oil-t77.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/first-order-of-rats-t76.htm Heather I just picked up my RP order today of more 3 week quail and a new one- L rats. I asked Casey if I could get all white ones because I'm not too fond of feeding patterned animals (I tend to get even more upset because "this one has a heart shape patch!" etc) and he said to let them know when I ordered. I forgot. And what do I have in my order when I opened the box? About 1/3 black hoodeds. I'm feeding PEWs now so I can desensitize myself for when I have to cut it open and take out the ... General Questions Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:33:57 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/first-order-of-rats-t76.htm#437 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/first-order-of-rats-t76.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/baby-rabbits-t63.htm Kelly We had baby rabbits today (local woman we get our adult rabbits from also gives us natural death kits), I put fish oils on them as I try and make sure they get their fish oils this way (we dont feed fish often enough yet). The only one who ate it was Penelope (usually the pickiest, never looked twice at the mice). Jasper, who LOVED the mice and would hoard them all for himself, wasn't even a little interested. So, atleast we know SOMEONE will eat them and they went back into the fridge ... General Questions Mon, 23 Feb 2009 03:46:52 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/baby-rabbits-t63.htm#365 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/baby-rabbits-t63.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/changes-t31.htm Siam For those of you who used to feed dry or canned food and now feed raw, what changes did you notice in your cats? What changes occurred quickly and which ones took a while? For those that took a while, how long did they take to be noticeable? I was also curious about the condition of your cat's teeth. for those that have fed raw for at least a few months how are your cat's teeth? Have they improved if they were poor? If they were never bad (or your cat has always eaten raw) have they remained ... General Questions Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:14:16 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/changes-t31.htm#103 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/changes-t31.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/willie-s-upset-tummy-t52.htm Siam About six days ago I gave Willie his first bone including meal that he ate, the next day I tried him on Venison, which he refused so I brought out some chicken, I wrapped a piece of chicken around a piece of venison the size of my thumb nail. A half hour later the chicken and that piece of venison was gone, no other venison was touched. The next night I gave him wet food instead, he had only ever had this brand of wet food once but did fine with it. This same night he pooped (in litter box) ... General Questions Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:49:23 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/willie-s-upset-tummy-t52.htm#252 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/willie-s-upset-tummy-t52.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/cats-favorite-and-least-favorite-foods-t29.htm Siam Anyone have a cat who loves a certain food or species? Or hates one? I have not tried Willie on enough yet, basically only chicken and Pork with Turkey organs so I can't really say what he likes, except he ate both chicken and Pork without a problem. So far he hates liver which is a problem. tonight we'll try venison, it would be a big help if he likes it since my uncle hunts deer and I can get a good amount of that stuff for free. So what are your cat's likes and dislikes? General Questions Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:54:24 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/cats-favorite-and-least-favorite-foods-t29.htm#101 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/cats-favorite-and-least-favorite-foods-t29.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/cleaning-up-t28.htm Siam Last night Willie decided his food didn't need to stay on the plate and he dragged it across the cat tree and plopped it on the carpet leaving bone marrow nastiness in it's path. What should I use to clean this up without staining anything? I have enzymatic cleaners, do you think they are good for sanitization? General Questions Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:48:10 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/cleaning-up-t28.htm#100 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/cleaning-up-t28.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/shrimp-t23.htm artsiekat
Does anyone know if it has any nutritional value for them?]]> General Questions Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:03:38 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/shrimp-t23.htm#50 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/shrimp-t23.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/bone-success-woot-t48.htm Siam I am sooooo happy, Willie is really eating the bones, this was the second day he's done it and he really chomped down on them, I'm ecstatic. I was getting so worried about him, I thought I'd have to stop feeding raw for a while so that he was not lacking in nutrients but not anymore! I have to break them up a little for him but other than that he crunches them up. One more battle is organs and once we do that I'm gonna be all set with him, I'm so glad he is doing this, I hope I'll see him have ... General Questions Fri, 20 Feb 2009 12:47:47 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/bone-success-woot-t48.htm#223 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/bone-success-woot-t48.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/taurine-t19.htm chris10 A long shot. But does anyone have info about taurine levels in chicken meat(light and dark) and chicken hearts? Or any other meat? I have emailed many government agencies and universities but none want to talk. Email is probably not the best way to contact them. This site is a great site for looking up nutrient levels of a lot of foods, http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/ , but the usda doesn't list any taurine levels for any foods. General Questions Mon, 16 Feb 2009 04:20:39 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/taurine-t19.htm#29 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/taurine-t19.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/2-3-of-body-weight-t8.htm Kelly Can anyone else chime in here? I know the old forum had someone who made up an Excel program for this, it was wonderful! General Questions Sun, 15 Feb 2009 20:31:29 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/2-3-of-body-weight-t8.htm#8 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/2-3-of-body-weight-t8.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/goat-anyone-t9.htm Kelly
(Btw, the cats HATE goat.. Betty loves it!)]]> General Questions Sun, 15 Feb 2009 20:35:56 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/goat-anyone-t9.htm#9 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/goat-anyone-t9.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/how-much-to-feed-your-cat-t21.htm Siam This is probably the most common question next to "Is it safe" that raw supporters hear from those who are new to raw feeding or skeptical of it. So here are the directions on how you go about calculating how much to feed, there is also an excel program that another member has that will hopefully be posted in this thread soon to make it easier for all those with excel, but this thread will show you all exactly how it is calculated. Things to remember are that most raw feeders start ... General Questions Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:25:07 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/how-much-to-feed-your-cat-t21.htm#37 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/how-much-to-feed-your-cat-t21.htm http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/nutrient-composition-of-some-prey-t18.htm chris10 http://www.nal.usda.gov/awic/zoo/WholePreyFinal02May29.pdf

May help]]> General Questions Mon, 16 Feb 2009 04:09:58 GMT http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/nutrient-composition-of-some-prey-t18.htm#28 http://rawpetforum.forumotion.com/general-questions-f1/nutrient-composition-of-some-prey-t18.htm